Does the new moon occur at the time of the conjunction or on the day of sighting?
Biblicaly, the sighting of the new moon crescent heralds the start of a new month by showing its light. It is therefore the day of the sighting, with the following day at sunrise being the actual first day of the new month according to a creation sunrise to sunrise cycle.
Genesis 1:14 says that the Almighty created the lights to be signs. The moon, the lesser light to begin the month. The greater light, the year. Yahweh tells us very clearly to use the moon’s light as this sign:
Then the Almĩghty says, “Let there be lights in the vault of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs, even for appointed times and for days and years;
The “lights” are for signs. It is very important to heed the meaning of this word “Light.” The Scripture is accurate in every detail. It says “let THEM be for signs.” Again! THEM. “Them” refers to lights. It does not say moon or sun. It says lights. Now of course the moon is a light only when it is lighted and can bee seen. Dark moons or conjunctions are not signs and are not lights since nobody can see the moon when it is in conjunction. So a conjunction cannot give the sign (or signal) to start a month. One may calculate the conjunction, but it still would not be biblical to start the month with a conjunction.
In all ancient historical accounts, the new month always begun according to the sighting of the first lighted crescent. This is true with Josephus, Philo, all Jewish sources, and all ancient cultures except Rome and Egypt. Egypt used the last light of the old moon, and Rome’s months had nothing to do with the moon’s cycles whatsoever. But in Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and other places where the Jews were compelled to follow the civil calendar, the new moon was always according to the crescent.
The conjunction method is really a Rabbinic invention introduced after AD 359 which was well after the destruction of the Temple in AD 70. It is completely unknown in Israel and the ancient world before that time.
New Moon Calendar Error by 119 Ministries by D. Gregg
Thanks for sharing this . .
Thank you for your article here which is helpful especially when there are those who still use the astronomical/conjunction new moon to determine the appointed times. But I’m curious why you say that the creation cycle is from sunrise to sunrise. I thought it was from evening to evening according to Gen 1:5. Also, using the sighted moon method as you describe here, does this give you 30 days to each month? I’ve been recently studying the biblical calendar.
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your question, I have forwarded, to your email address you provided, a breakdown of the Hebrew behind Gen 1:5 and a short informal YouTube clip explaining the same has been posted below.
Genesis 1:5, A Messianic Text Defining the Day, Evening or Setting? Morning or Dawn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoUzGRRVSGM
Two crucial elements to note, is, that the sunset to sunset day will not accommodate the Temple Services or sacrifices neither the Resurrection 3 days/nights account, only the sunrise to sunrise template will fit. One will see this as one progresses.
The astronomical/conjunction theory was only recently introduced.
The Biblical month or cycle from crescent sighting to sighting is either 29 or 30 days. There are a few teaching segments on our Youtube page.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcUNP9w121vHf-_npRbSA7g
If you have any further queries or questions look forward to hearing from you,
Regards
Bobby GNMedia
Messiah and The disciples had Passover after sunset on the 14th day of the 1st month and then was tortured snd murdered into the light after that evening before the next evening sunset which is still the same day in the 14th day of the first month.
Messiah would Not be the Passover lamb on anything other than the 14th day and the disciples n Messiah would not celebrate Passover on any other day but Passover.
Something is wrong with the text if it doesn’t say this.
Those Catholics and translation problems were always messing with the text.
And the sabbath was the next day because we see the crescent moon n do sabbath the following day.
This seems the most correct version that my husband and I have found so far in all our studies and we’ve changed a few times after being convicted by the new scriptures we found throughout our studies.
Everyone is researching and wanting the real truth. We must keep seeking til all the obedience and truth absolutely fit. We can’t have square pegs mashed into round holes.
We can’t force it but listen to Elohims Spirit n keep seeking.
My husband and I are still listening to see if there’s proof in the scripture through conviction to change the conviction we have come to.
We ask several questions in obedience to the Torah and what Messiah would truly do and have us do.
And we do a long sabbath between the months ( sabbaths) at the full moon at its darkest.
This long sabbath is from the last sabbath of the previous month to the first sabbath of the next month.
There’s no 13th month in the Bible.
The i between days is where the extra days are at. He hides us in the shadow of the month, a long rest.
And the months are individual and perfect 30 day months as per scripture and all have 7 day weeks with the left over days being the long sabbath between the months. Some between the month sabbaths are sabbaths on the same day n some are 2 days n some 3 and 4 days watching for the crescent and the next day sunset is the sabbath.
It does not fit into a Gregorian calendar at all, not one bit!
It’s all amazing that we are all searching for His Real Truth in these end days!
Much Shalom(completeness, perfectness and wholeness) who’s circumcised minds and hearts are continuously on YHWH!
Messiah and The disciples had Passover after sunset on the 14th day of the 1st month and then was tortured and murdered into the light after that evening before the next evening sunset, which is still the same day in the 14th day of the first month.
IF I MAY ASK FIRSTLY. DO YOU SEE THE SCRIPTURAL BIBLICAL DAY AS STARTING FROM SUNRISE – SUNRISE OR SUNSET – SUNSET?
And the sabbath was the next day because we see the crescent moon n do sabbath the following day.
IS PASSOVER A (HIGH) SABBATH?
WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE CRESCENT MOON INITIATES THE START OF A NEW MONTH? WITH THE NEW MOON DAY EQUAL TO DAY 1?
And we do a long sabbath between the months (sabbaths) at the full moon at its darkest. This long sabbath is from the last sabbath of the previous month to the first sabbath of the next month.
ON WHICH DAY OF CREATION DID YHVH REST (SHABBAT)?
There’s no 13th month in the Bible.
Three feasts by foot you shall keep for me in the year” (Exodus 23:14). All ancient cultures determined their year by The Equinox, which will always be 365/366 days. In order to keep the above admonition to keep three feasts (appointed times) in a year, what if the Equinox were to occur on the Aviv/Nisan 16 and cause Passover to occur in the old year and produce four feasts by foot? Would an additional ADAR II be required?